I don't have time anymore. I am average 40+ hours at work. It's also proof that it took me this long to reply, but I don't come here often. I just don't have time anymore. I'm just now even seeing this.
How come many pages are blank? Because there are [almost 11,000] species of birds. Many are very rare and/or new, in this case, there might not be much info.
How come this [insert page name here] has no info? As I've said before, there are [almost 11,000] species of birds and many of them are very rare and some are new, in which case they might not be in some of the older guides.
From Taxonomy in Flux: As of May 28, 2018, the TiF list contains 10928 species in 2406 genera, 251 families, and 46 orders.
"I don't get it either. :/ Birds, reptiles, fish, mammals, insects, amphibians, other invertebrates are all animals. Who cares about paraphyly and monophyly? We all share the same ancestor. Hell, we should all be called reptiles, because the amniote ancestors were reptile-like.
"Besides, the name stuck. I heard it's a pain in the arse to change a wiki's name. Doesn't sound like it's worth it, really."
I don't know how nor do I have the time either. I've worked very hard to make this wiki look nice. I'm very busy and don't have motivation lately.
May I kindly ask you why did you change the images I put on pages like Eurasian Jackdaw? I didn't take them from the web, they were all photos made by me, except from the augur buzzard images (taken from Wikipedia), that you didn't delete.
I repeat I am saying this kindly, it is not my intention to offend you.
Shoot. I'm sorry. No, you didn't offend me. I thought they were stolen. And is it possible to convert them to PNGs? They don't show the blurry edging when they're thumbnails. And, it's easy to do. Just open up Paint, select "save as", and on the dropdown option, select PNG and done.
Hi Staraptor, I am editing some pages in the Birds Wikia (maybe you know it). It is a beautyful wiki but nobody is editing it since 2014! I am the only one who still edits it. Can you please help me editing some pages on that wiki?
Following up on your comment on the Technical Update, I made some changes and restore the Facebook Like Box on Template:Maintop with the updated code from FB that uses div tags. The Help page still needs to be updated with this info, I apologize that it has not been done yet. You can see some of the parameters available for this at https://developers.facebook.com/docs/plugins/like-box-for-pages if you want to try some different things. Let me know if you have any questions!
It looks like the release last week might have caused some trouble with all of the Facebook plugins on Wikia. I can't get anything to show right now, but we're looking into it. I will let you know when it's fixed!
First of all, that article is lacking proper citations as StaraptorEmpoleon pointed out.
Second of all, all living things are proven to be connected to each other. What's the issue of having pages for reptiles, mammals, fish, etc? Much like birds - they are all living creatures!
Also check out this Wiki - the main emphasis is of course still on birds! That's what we're working on - many bird articles and improving them /keeping up to date with the taxonomy. SE has worked real hard in doing that!
Also - this is StaraptorEmpoleon's Wiki. She makes the calls and she's had these reptile pages and other animal+ science based articles since early on. She can add whatever article she wishes and none of them are non-related anyways as the Wiki stays true to the love of animals and science (with the main emphasis still being on BIRDS!)
No harm in keeping articles for other living species as they are all living creatures and stay true to our expectations for our Wiki.
"From a cladastic point of view, the class [R]eptilia is not valid even today. Reptiles are now considered a polyphyletic classification. They did not branch of at the same time.
Reptiles don't have enough in common to be considered a biologically relevant grouping. The crocodile is not a lizard any more than a dolphin is a fish.
Squamata (lizards, snakes), Testudinata (turtles, tortoises), Rhynchocephelia (Sphenodon), and [C]rocodilia (alligators, crocodiles, caimans, gavails) are different orders of extant reptiles. However, the evidence is that these four orders branched off at completely different times.
In terms of a cladogram, crocodilians are closer related to birds then to [S]quamata, testudinata (sic) or [R]hynchocephelia. Some scientists prefer to group crocodilians, birds and dinosaurs into one group called archosaurs.
There are a few groups of mammal-like reptiles that lived before the dinosaurs. Pelycosaurs, therapsids and gorgonoids were first classified as reptiles, just like the dinosaurs were first classified as reptiles. However, research over the last few years shows that these reptiles are closer related to mammals than they were to dinosaurs.
There is a lot of controvery (sic) about grouping testudinata and squamata together. Some evidence indicates testudinata (sic) may be closer related to archosaurs than to [S]quamata. However, the testudinata (sic) split off very early from both archosaurs and [S]quamata.
It appears that in terms of natural history, reptiles are not a well defined group. The four extant orders have a skin deep resemblance to each other. However, they did not split off from each other later than they split off from the mammal line.
If you include extinct animals in taxonomy, it gets even more difficult to think of reptiles as a monophyletic clade. Before the Permian Triassic extinction 250 MYA, there was a continuum of creatures that could be classified as archosaurs. There were fewer distinctive features between birds, crocodilians and dinosaurs in the Jurassic. However, these animals differed a great deal from [S]quamata, pterodactyls and mososuars (sic).
Reptiles are a historically useful class derived from Linnean taxonomy. Historical categories are useful for looking up things in the library or even on the internet. If everybody kept reclassifying organisms to keep up with research that is continually being done, no one could keep track of that research. Libraries would go broke reshuffling their books every few months. However, reptiles is not a useful category when correlating facts about nature."
Dinosaurs are still, of course, considered reptiles, leading to a natural follow-up question: if birds are really dinosaurs, and dinosaurs are reptiles, should birds be considered reptiles? The answer again is yes: herpetologists, the scientists who specialize in the study of amphibians and reptiles, take great pleasure in reminding their ornithologist colleagues that birds might correctly be thought of as “avian reptiles.”
"Snakes, lizards, turtles, crocodilians, and birds also all share an evolutionary history. Many years of research has proven that the ancestors of birds were bird-like dinosaurs (visit the Dinobuzz page for more on this). Even though birds look very different from other living reptiles, they’re most closely related to alligators and crocodiles and clearly belong in the reptile group."
^This so much! Reptiles and birds actually have a load in common, and regardless - they're all animals to boot! MUCH more bird articles anyways too, so I don't see why this is a big issue as the Wiki still focuses on its main premise.
Also look at the front page. It lists all kinds of wildlife in addition to birds!
I don't get it either. :/ Birds, reptiles, fish, mammals, insects, amphibians, other invertebrates are all animals. Who cares about paraphyly and monophyly? We all share the same ancestor. Hell, we should all be called reptiles, because the amniote ancestors were reptile-like.
Besides, the name stuck. I heard it's a pain in the arse to change a wiki's name. Doesn't sound like it's worth it, really.
Okay, but paraphyly is a real thing. And you don't need to include everything - you can just make a new wiki with a new name. And reptiles are not birds so there is no reason to include them in a bird wiki if this was just about birds.
If you read through the various articles and descriptions we've provided, even those who specialize in reptile studies recognize birds as "avian reptiles".
To create a new Wiki would take a load of work considering the amount of articles already placed here. Do you realize how much work it would take to update taxonomy and bird articles - SE has worked very hard on that! As opposed to complaining about the non-bird articles, why not just help out with the bird articles and ignore the rest?
The Wiki is perfectly fine as is. Plenty of bird articles.
Exactly. I don't need to create a new wiki. I already have enough on my hands: taking care of this wiki, my forum: Animal Warriors Universe and GamerzUniverse as well as the AWU Wiki too. All four of these things are plenty of work! Not to mention, I have a job. I also love to write too.
Yes, please. If you don't like AWU, please make your own wiki that YOU can edit and make it look nice. I've edited ABW almost 40,000 times. I've worked hard to make it look nice, and have book, magazine, website references for species pages instead of Wikipedia. I also appreciate YellowToad's contributions too. He makes ABW look nice too.
You are like the only user on this wiki and you have done a great job! Is there any way I can help? I have tried adding a few pics to photos. Can i do anything more? I love birds and this wiki seems really cool.
Something weird's going on with that Ten Flags blog post. I made two comments, one a few hours ago and one just now. They show up on Recent Wiki Activity but they don't actually show up on the page. At the top of the page it says "7 comments" and at the bottom "5 comments". And the website for some reason refused to let me start a new line (I can now
Now, the entire formatting of Wikia (not just this wiki) seems to have changed. For example, at Special:WikiActivity and the "Recent Wiki Activity" "sidebox", the article names are shown in italic and the usernames are shown in red.
And it, outside of galleries and some templates (or maybe it's just certain pages) it won't show more than four pictures per page, leaving the rest blank, no matter how much you reload the page, which is annoying.
And here, the flags appear everywhere except at the list at the bottom (maybe it's because there they are part of a template that contains only an image - the flags above appear as part of larger templates that also include nation links (and those templates, in turn, are shown within the match templates, though they are not contained within its code - the Ib template contains the flag and also text as part of its code, not the input, though this is not relevant with regards to the page and the disappearing flags as the Ib template only appears as the input of the box templates, while the flagicon template appears in a list, not within another template (Sorry if I'm not making sense!))).
(That's a lot of bracket-levels, isn't it? If it's too confusing, read only the outer text and the first level.)
Actually, the Ib template appears independently in the little lists by the headers.
So, it seems the image will appear throughout a page if the template contains the image and also something else as part of its code (the Ib template) but not if the template contains only an image (the flagicon template and the nation templates (e.g.) in the first link), in which case only four of the templates will work if there are no images above them, or none if there more than four images in other templates (or outside templates, probably) above.
(Note that the bug may be confined to just my computer and/or may just be temporary, in which case this all may not be very helpful.)
Something else that's really weird: I recently started a new wikia, with achievements enabled. I am so far the only (human) contributor. I make my 65th edit, and suddenly I get a badge message: "Congratulations! You have just received the Lucky Edit badge for making the lucky 2'000th edit to the wikia!"